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The next recruiter that tells me they love their job because “they have the power to change peoples lives” is going to get introduced to the business end of my shoe.
If you’re one of those recruiters that actually believes this, allow me to give you a lift back to planet Earth.
You’re not a Social Worker.
You’re not a Life Coach.
You’re not a Career Counsellor.
...


With this logic, nobody's job is fucking important cause they're not saving lives.
I, however, feel a pang of pride when I get a person out of a shitty 60+ hours a week job at a place he/she isn't valued to a place he/she calls home and maybe learns a thing or two.

now, if you're an agency recruiter and all you do is place people on shitty contracts... yeah, you're changing people's lives for the worse.

I used to shit on teaching English because English "teachers" are a dime a dozen in the places I taught and I wasn't exactly a professor who could educate, merely a willing participant with some interest and energy. Little did I know, teaching isn't just about putting a piece of knowledge into somebody's head so that they may use it when appropriate - it's also inspiring and leading the student. Fuck, I had no idea my student learned anything from our on again- off again volunteer sessions (half off which we spend chatting in Russian), and yet she went and got some important life-changing shit done on her own in English and without her kid's help because I inspired her and instilled confidence in her that she did not have before our little sessions.

Lives can be changed in big ways and in small ways. Hell, maybe I won't hire you for my start-up btu I'll get you thinking about your career and you'll go get a better job on your own cause a recruiter reached out to you, which means you must be worth something!

Date: 2016-02-23 08:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juan-gandhi.livejournal.com
As someone said, we, engineers, are like camels to the recruiters. I kind of wholeheartedly agree (and I like it).

Date: 2016-02-23 08:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kto-ti.livejournal.com
as in you carry a lot of weight on your backs? you traverse deserts? you spit in our faces?

Date: 2016-02-24 08:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juan-gandhi.livejournal.com
Right, all three. That's how engineers feel.

Date: 2016-02-24 08:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kto-ti.livejournal.com
I mean... obvs? that's why y'all get paid the big bucks.

Somebody has to find and steal y'all away from wherever you are... I sit here and look through profiles and find emails and email engineers and talk to them and try to hire them - it is not a job engineers want or should do themselves... Somebody has to.

Date: 2016-02-24 09:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juan-gandhi.livejournal.com
See, I have a bunch of my favorite recruiters; I appreciate the way they sell me to companies. Most people don't get it, though.

When Mike calls the cto and tells him "I have a star for you", I am so extremely thankful to him.

Date: 2016-02-24 09:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kto-ti.livejournal.com
I hear ya. Remember the post about one of our clients who has had 3 favorite recruiters in his whole life time? Most suck. You see, to be any recruiter, you really don't have to have anything - maybe a degree but not even. A lot of asshats enter... Sadly, the good ones tend to become more than just recruiters too.

Date: 2016-02-24 10:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juan-gandhi.livejournal.com
Right. Mike is not a recruiter anymore... :)

Date: 2016-02-24 06:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 802-11.livejournal.com
From my experience with recruiters, you're a damn good one.

Date: 2016-02-24 02:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kto-ti.livejournal.com
Aw, thanks! From what I hear, in Europe you guy's use agencies. And that's just shitty. Internal recruiters can be better but aren't necessarily.

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